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The entire 'ideas' section reads like an election pamphlet. Concepts like "Democracy, Freedom, Human rights, Human dignity, Positive liberty, Social justice, Solidarity, Sustainability" are by no means unique to Soc Dems, and the links say very little about Soc Dem ideology. I propose they be deleted, the question is what should substitute it? --Soman 10:26, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
They were added here because they are also present in the Christian Democracy template, and it proved impossible to persuade a couple of editors to accept their removal. I maintain that any criteria applied to this template must be applied in equal measure to the Christian Democracy template. -- Nikodemos 10:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I think we meed strong criteria for the inclusion of ideas for all templates, because I belief that these ideas are very useful, if they have proper criteria. C mon 16:42, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I have no qualms with the current version (which should not be surprising, as I was the last editor of the template). Right now, the template is limited to:
Dear C mon, your opinion counts exactly as mine, so I don't understand why we can't return to the previous version of the template. I think it is fairly more practical to have templates without "show" buttons. They are more easily manageble. --Checco (talk) 09:04, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
After six days, I can only observe that there is no consensus on the edits of C mon, as he is the only one defending them in this talk page... --Checco (talk) 23:04, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Dear Checco, in the case of this particular template, I did not create the shows, that was User:Morgan695here and you are the only one contesting this. So I can't say that there is consensus for rolling back. C mon (talk) 07:55, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
You're right (sorry), but, as we are talking about a handful of templates, I agree with you when you say that we need a more centralized discussion. I don't think it is ok to have some templates with the shows and some without. We need a single decision on all the navigational boxes on political parties. --Checco (talk) 08:03, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
I created a centralized place for discussion about the show/hide-issue here. I invite every one to participate. C mon (talk) 18:04, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Tony Blair? Is he a social democrat ? Cme34 (talk) 07:44, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I am shocked to find that Tony Crosland has been removed from the list of people. He is surely the leading theorist of modern social democracy in Britain. It seems quite ridiculous to include Bulent Ecevit and Gerhard Schroeder, essentially merely opportunist politicians, but to leave out an influential intellectual such as Crosland. -- Alarics (talk) 21:51, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
I added Lassalle, who is certainly the most important figure of Northern-European (or now NW European) social democracy. Following your comments, I removed Blair and Schröder, who are not of the stature of the others, i.e., they are not considered the leading politicians of their country, etc. Thanks! Best regards, Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 02:09, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
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