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How Donald Trump Answers A Question
How Donald Trump Answers A Question
Published: 2015/12/30
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Published: 2017/05/09
Channel: Matthew Lesko
KIDS REACT TO DONALD TRUMP
KIDS REACT TO DONALD TRUMP
Published: 2016/03/03
Channel: FBE
Danny Trejo on Donald Trump, How He Got Into Acting and Trejo
Danny Trejo on Donald Trump, How He Got Into Acting and Trejo's Tacos (Full Interview) | BigBoyTV
Published: 2016/03/31
Channel: BigBoyTV
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Hitler is informed that Donald Trump's family name is really Drumpf
Published: 2016/03/02
Channel: Robert Tolhurst
The First Presidential Debate: Hillary Clinton And Donald Trump (Full Debate) | NBC News
The First Presidential Debate: Hillary Clinton And Donald Trump (Full Debate) | NBC News
Published: 2016/09/27
Channel: NBC News
If Guys Said What Kim Kardashian Says
If Guys Said What Kim Kardashian Says
Published: 2015/09/12
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Billionaire Rich Lifestyle - Lifestyles Around The World 2015
Billionaire Rich Lifestyle - Lifestyles Around The World 2015
Published: 2015/07/25
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Kirk Cameron Warns Parents To Not Argue in Front of Kids | The View
Kirk Cameron Warns Parents To Not Argue in Front of Kids | The View
Published: 2016/04/29
Channel: The View
U.S. Vets with PTSD Smoke Weed
U.S. Vets with PTSD Smoke Weed
Published: 2016/11/11
Channel: WatchCut Video
trump talk with snoop dog
trump talk with snoop dog
Published: 2016/03/29
Channel: Bryan Zelaya
Ex-chief to Trump: Don
Ex-chief to Trump: Don't 'whine' at the CIA
Published: 2017/01/24
Channel: Wochit Politics
POTUS 2017:  The Trump Budget And The New Silk Road
POTUS 2017: The Trump Budget And The New Silk Road
Published: 2017/06/01
Channel: cunytv75
DONALD TRUMP TALK - DESPICABLE EVIL ROSIE CALLS 10 YEAR OLD BARRON TRUMP AUTISTIC
DONALD TRUMP TALK - DESPICABLE EVIL ROSIE CALLS 10 YEAR OLD BARRON TRUMP AUTISTIC
Published: 2016/11/27
Channel: George Senda
Jimmy Fallon Went to Bayside High with "Saved By The Bell" Cast
Jimmy Fallon Went to Bayside High with "Saved By The Bell" Cast
Published: 2015/02/05
Channel: The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
Dave Chappelle Describes His First Encounter with Kanye West
Dave Chappelle Describes His First Encounter with Kanye West
Published: 2014/06/14
Channel: The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
Nintendo Switch Parental Controls - Nintendo Switch Presentation 2017 Trailer
Nintendo Switch Parental Controls - Nintendo Switch Presentation 2017 Trailer
Published: 2017/01/13
Channel: Nintendo
Magenta Pixie: Mastering the Matrix and the coming Great Reveal - Jan 17, 2017
Magenta Pixie: Mastering the Matrix and the coming Great Reveal - Jan 17, 2017
Published: 2017/01/18
Channel: Galactic Connection
Elon Musk Might Be A Super Villain
Elon Musk Might Be A Super Villain
Published: 2015/09/10
Channel: The Late Show with Stephen Colbert
Jennifer Lawrence Interrupted by Jack Nicholson at Oscars | Good Morning America | ABC News
Jennifer Lawrence Interrupted by Jack Nicholson at Oscars | Good Morning America | ABC News
Published: 2013/02/25
Channel: ABC News
Bell Biv DeVoe Discusses The New Edition Story & More on The Breakfast Club
Bell Biv DeVoe Discusses The New Edition Story & More on The Breakfast Club
Published: 2017/01/26
Channel: Breakfast Club Power 105.1 FM
Rep. Elijah Cummings Speaks on President Trump Orders Wall Along Mexican Border. #MexicanBorder
Rep. Elijah Cummings Speaks on President Trump Orders Wall Along Mexican Border. #MexicanBorder
Published: 2017/01/26
Channel: Almutaz Bur News Network
#Trump #Hillary SAME AS IT EVER WAS: Donald Trump And Hillary Clinton Related To Same Royalty
#Trump #Hillary SAME AS IT EVER WAS: Donald Trump And Hillary Clinton Related To Same Royalty
Published: 2016/04/27
Channel: CHAOS VIEW Archive
Bundy Family Demands POTUS Donald Trump Pardon Everyone In #OregonStandOff #BundyRanch
Bundy Family Demands POTUS Donald Trump Pardon Everyone In #OregonStandOff #BundyRanch
Published: 2017/02/01
Channel: CHAOS VIEW Archive
PBS NewsHour full episode July 6, 2017
PBS NewsHour full episode July 6, 2017
Published: 2017/07/07
Channel: PBS NewsHour
Make America Fear Again: The Daily Show
Make America Fear Again: The Daily Show
Published: 2016/07/20
Channel: The Daily Show with Trevor Noah
Scientific Studies: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
Scientific Studies: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
Published: 2016/05/09
Channel: LastWeekTonight
Speechless Speech / WLADIMIR PUTIN
Speechless Speech / WLADIMIR PUTIN
Published: 2015/05/06
Channel: Mario Wienerroither
KIDS REACT TO NIRVANA
KIDS REACT TO NIRVANA
Published: 2017/03/26
Channel: FBE
CHAOS: POTUS Trump Fires Attorney General & ICE Director IN Hours Protests - Ryan Bundy Talks Jerky
CHAOS: POTUS Trump Fires Attorney General & ICE Director IN Hours Protests - Ryan Bundy Talks Jerky
Published: 2017/02/01
Channel: CHAOS VIEW Archive
Mid-East Prophecy Update – July 9th, 2017
Mid-East Prophecy Update – July 9th, 2017
Published: 2017/07/09
Channel: JD Farag
Mid-East Prophecy Update – May 28th, 2017
Mid-East Prophecy Update – May 28th, 2017
Published: 2017/05/28
Channel: JD Farag
Wu-Tang Clan - Triumph ft. Cappadonna
Wu-Tang Clan - Triumph ft. Cappadonna
Published: 2013/04/30
Channel: WuTangClanVEVO
‘Thought Leader’ gives talk that will inspire your thoughts | This is That | CBC
‘Thought Leader’ gives talk that will inspire your thoughts | This is That | CBC
Published: 2016/06/08
Channel: CBC
Dmitry Orlov - Seizing the Mid-Collapse Moment
Dmitry Orlov - Seizing the Mid-Collapse Moment
Published: 2013/01/16
Channel: predoba
Paul Keating in conversation with Kerry O
Paul Keating in conversation with Kerry O'Brien
Published: 2015/10/21
Channel: Sydney Opera House Talks & Ideas
Watch the 2016 Vice Presidential Debate (Full Debate - 10/04/16)
Watch the 2016 Vice Presidential Debate (Full Debate - 10/04/16)
Published: 2016/10/05
Channel: Bloomberg Politics
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God's Not Dead 2
Published: 2016/04/26
Channel: UniversalMovies
Atul Singh: "The Global Rise of the Far Right" | Talks at Google
Atul Singh: "The Global Rise of the Far Right" | Talks at Google
Published: 2016/08/15
Channel: Talks at Google
Adopted Daughter Finds Family 50 Years Later | OFF AIR | ABC News
Adopted Daughter Finds Family 50 Years Later | OFF AIR | ABC News
Published: 2015/08/05
Channel: ABC News
Maddow to news orgs beware of forged Trump Russia documents!  MSNBC
Maddow to news orgs beware of forged Trump Russia documents! MSNBC
Published: 2017/07/07
Channel: snews
How The Economic Machine Works by Ray Dalio
How The Economic Machine Works by Ray Dalio
Published: 2013/09/22
Channel: Bridgewater
Jonathan Cahn Shemitah & Harbinger Update! | Sid Roth
Jonathan Cahn Shemitah & Harbinger Update! | Sid Roth's It's Supernatural!
Published: 2016/10/09
Channel: Sid Roth's It's Supernatural!
Billy Joel and Jimmy Fallon Form 2-Man Doo-Wop Group Using iPad App
Billy Joel and Jimmy Fallon Form 2-Man Doo-Wop Group Using iPad App
Published: 2014/03/21
Channel: The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
Finger Family Song | Bear Finger Family  | Nursery Rhymes for Children by Teehee Town
Finger Family Song | Bear Finger Family | Nursery Rhymes for Children by Teehee Town
Published: 2016/11/08
Channel: Teehee Town - Nursery Rhymes and Kids Songs
Trump protesters smash door, break through barriers
Trump protesters smash door, break through barriers
Published: 2016/05/25
Channel: InformOverload News
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P!nk - Try
Published: 2012/10/10
Channel: PinkVEVO
Who Is Steve Bannon? - The Preliminary Investigation Begins - POTUS DONALD TRUMP
Who Is Steve Bannon? - The Preliminary Investigation Begins - POTUS DONALD TRUMP
Published: 2017/02/01
Channel: CHAOS VIEW Archive
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Jigarthanda Tamil Full Movie
Published: 2016/04/27
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Mad Lib Madness
Published: 2015/06/10
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Purpose?[edit]

Navigation boxes are for articles, not just to list tons of non-notable entries. This template only has a few actual article, so what purpose does it serve? ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:10, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

I removed non-article entries. ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:30, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

And there is no reason for the template if it's this short, all other presidential templates have family included, so this size template should probably be merged with {{Donald Trump}} per site consistency. Randy Kryn 15:24, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

I think it's fine, because the main template will grow and presidency issues wouldn't be very relevant to the articles about individual family members who are notable for other things than happening to be part of the president's family. — JFG talk 14:04, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Generations[edit]

This template includes Frederick Trump and his wife Elizabeth in the "first generation" group (notwithstanding the fact that they weren't the first generation of the family), but Donald Trump is included in the "third generation" and his wives are, quite oddly, included in the "fourth generation" as if they belong to a different generation than their husband and are his children! --Tataral (talk) 17:11, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

@Tataral: You're right, I made it clearer with just two groups and clear descendancy lines. — JFG talk 14:01, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Barron or not Barron[edit]

Now that, per AfD, Barron Trump's page has been merged as a redirect to Family of Donald Trump#Barron Trump, there is a disagreement among editors here whether his name should be included in the navbox. Arguments for: completeness of presidential family, avoiding edit wars. Arguments against: general guidance on criteria for inclusion in navboxes. My take: we should WP:IAR and include him for the sake of stability and being informative to our readers. Note that I am in no way contesting the AfD results, in which I voted strongly against a separate article. Contributors: @Purplebackpack89, Another Believer, Champion, Triggerhippie4, Randy Kryn, Charles Essie, and SNUGGUMS: comments welcome. — JFG talk 15:19, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

  • Not included, since we have no page for him at the present, although that may change because of notability, he should also not be red-linked here. Red links on templates usually imply that Wikipedia seeks and would welcome a competent article on the subject, and a new page on this subject is neither sought nor would stand at the present time. Full disclosure: I think that this template is redundant, because the {{Donald Trump}} template already covers these topics and per the rest of the US presidential templates. Randy Kryn 15:25, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
We're not talking about a red link here: Barron Trump is a blue link to the relevant section of Family of Donald Trump and it's perfectly fine that way. — JFG talk 22:13, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose inclusion the purpose of navboxes is to guide readers through topics that already have articles. There isn't really anything to navigate with for someone who doesn't have a page. It isn't any less informative for readers to exclude subjects without articles. I also agree with Randy's comments on this template being redundant. Snuggums (talk / edits) 16:44, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Obvious included, Include as no link or blue link to family, so readers are aware that Donald has a child with Melania, otherwise the chart is incomplete. It is called Family of Donald Trump which Barron is a member. Valoem talk contrib 15:03, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Support inclusion - This would seem to be rather straightforward and I'm surprised there's even a debate about it. I agree with the rationale presented by JFG and Valoem. -- Scjessey (talk) 19:30, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Include name, when people click on Barron Trump they are (correctly) being redirected to Family of Donald Trump#Barron Trump. It doesn't matter whether we have a "full" page on him or not at present -- the biographical topic of Barron Trump is a future WP:SPINOFF article from the meta-article Family of Donald Trump, just exactly as Melania Trump is such a spinoff aka subsidiary article, already. If there is a question of whether Barron Trump is WP:NOTEWORTHY enough to be in the template (as opposed to Melania Trump's half-brother who is not noteworthy enough for example), then that is worth discussing. But that is a question that can be answered by looking to the sources, and seeing whether Barron is mentioned, along with Tiffany, in addition to the older children Ivanka + Eric + donaldJunior. Some quick googling suggests that he is not mentioned as often as Tiffany, nor his mother -- with Tiffany there are ~1.3m hits,[1] with Barron ~0.2m hits,[2] with Melania ~1.3m hits,[3] with just the older adult children ~2.1m hits.[4] So there is no question that Barron Trump gets 'relatively' little coverage, compared to his mom and step-siblings. But the question that ought to concern us, is whether 0.2m hits is ENOUGH to justify noteworthy-ness, or notability-equivalence: does Barron Trump satisfy WP:GNG -- which is different from whether he actually has a dedicated article. It seems clear to me that he does pass WP:GNG easily,[5][6] and therefore that the lack of a dedicated page is merely because of his age and ancestry. And to be clear, I have no problem with the AfD outcome. My point here is that Barron Trump, as a topic, is not as noteworthy as Melania or as Ivanka, but clearly quote worthy of inclusion in the template about Trump's family. If he *is* in the template, he won't appear as a redlink, because of the redirect -- unless I'm misunderstanding how templates work? Point being, we need not, and we ought not, use questions about whether Barron Trump is blue or not, or questions about whether the content covering Barron Trump is a 'real' fullblown article or not, to make this decision. It should be based on what the sources usually do, when they cover members of the "family of Donald Trump". As for the comments about redundancy, I supported the reverse solution -- keep this template as-is whilst cutting out the redundant portion of the Donald Trump template because it was already covered in THIS template properly -- over at the discussion about said redundancy. 47.222.203.135 (talk) 19:56, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

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