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Att-acks on donald trump
Published: 2017/12/10
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Jonathan Cahn’s Book «The Paradigm»: The Template for America’s History and Future
Published: 2017/09/20
Channel: Connie Oelbaum
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Tom Hanks and Meryl Streep Talk ‘The Post’
Published: 2018/01/09
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China Defends Pakistan After Donald Trump Tweet At-tack
China Defends Pakistan After Donald Trump Tweet At-tack
Published: 2018/01/02
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Published: 2017/05/09
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More pictures of the kidnapped Zainab were recovered,
More pictures of the kidnapped Zainab were recovered,
Published: 2018/01/14
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trump talk with snoop dog
Published: 2016/03/29
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Snoop Dogg On Who Wants To Be A Millionaire
Published: 2009/08/24
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Steve Harvey is OWNED by Donald Trump( w/ opinion on Eddie Long)
Steve Harvey is OWNED by Donald Trump( w/ opinion on Eddie Long)
Published: 2017/01/17
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To Whom India And Saudi Arab Give Vote to Trump
To Whom India And Saudi Arab Give Vote to Trump
Published: 2017/12/22
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Dmitry Orlov - Seizing the Mid-Collapse Moment
Published: 2013/01/16
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MASS MURDERS In Pike County OHIO (GrowOps) - Complete Info To This Point
Published: 2016/04/26
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Donald Trump 🇺🇸 Character for Crazytalk Animator 3 - Update!
Donald Trump 🇺🇸 Character for Crazytalk Animator 3 - Update!
Published: 2017/01/31
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Frantic rush to change 'Chinese decorations to Japanese' after Trump decides.
Published: 2017/02/12
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Trump Ki Chuti .. America Se Khushkhabri
Published: 2017/12/26
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saudi arabia corruption case envolve danolad trump son in law
Published: 2017/11/07
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Starseed Awakening Talk: Magenta Pixie speaks at Inspirations PLG, June 2017
Starseed Awakening Talk: Magenta Pixie speaks at Inspirations PLG, June 2017
Published: 2017/06/20
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Exclusive Talk Of Terro-rist Which Att-acks Peshawar Today
Published: 2017/12/01
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Kids Describe God to an Illustrator | Cut
Kids Describe God to an Illustrator | Cut
Published: 2017/04/21
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BREAKING: TOP REPUBLICAN Just BAILED On Trump
BREAKING: TOP REPUBLICAN Just BAILED On Trump
Published: 2017/11/09
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Zainab Father Response After Watching New CCTV Footage
Zainab Father Response After Watching New CCTV Footage
Published: 2018/01/15
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33 billion rupees; Pakistani citizens cut off 33 trumpets named
33 billion rupees; Pakistani citizens cut off 33 trumpets named
Published: 2018/01/04
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Former PM Nawaz Sharif has said Donald Trump
Former PM Nawaz Sharif has said Donald Trump's non-serious tweet
Published: 2018/01/03
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The Saudi government called Sharif family to Saudi Arabia
The Saudi government called Sharif family to Saudi Arabia
Published: 2017/12/31
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Evolution Of Mom Dancing (w/ Jimmy Fallon & Michelle Obama) (Late Night with Jimmy Fallon)
Evolution Of Mom Dancing (w/ Jimmy Fallon & Michelle Obama) (Late Night with Jimmy Fallon)
Published: 2013/02/22
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Rana Sana put a lie in the Sharif family
Rana Sana put a lie in the Sharif family
Published: 2017/12/12
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Jonathan Cahn’s Last Words to Obama - at Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast 2017
Jonathan Cahn’s Last Words to Obama - at Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast 2017
Published: 2017/02/27
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News Organizations: Beware Of Forged Donald Trump Russia Documents | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC
News Organizations: Beware Of Forged Donald Trump Russia Documents | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC
Published: 2017/07/07
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President Trump will continue to keep his promises to the American people : Lara Trump
President Trump will continue to keep his promises to the American people : Lara Trump
Published: 2017/08/09
Channel: Fox Business
Donald Trump says billions and billions and billions
Donald Trump says billions and billions and billions
Published: 2017/07/20
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7-year-old Sania, missing from Kasur, handed her to her parents
7-year-old Sania, missing from Kasur, handed her to her parents
Published: 2018/01/14
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BEST SPEECH EVER - Simon Sinek on Millennials in the Workplace | SO INSPIRING!
BEST SPEECH EVER - Simon Sinek on Millennials in the Workplace | SO INSPIRING!
Published: 2017/08/23
Channel: Be Inspired
Trump For President Youtube Channel Intro!
Trump For President Youtube Channel Intro!
Published: 2016/03/18
Channel: Bill Mitchell
Celebrities Read Mean Tweets #11
Celebrities Read Mean Tweets #11
Published: 2017/09/26
Channel: Jimmy Kimmel Live
Important leader of father died of PMLN
Important leader of father died of PMLN
Published: 2017/12/14
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Source: Trump Slam Of Sessions Has "CHILLING" Effect in west wing. #Breaking
Source: Trump Slam Of Sessions Has "CHILLING" Effect in west wing. #Breaking
Published: 2017/07/21
Channel: Almutaz Bur News Network
Billionaire Rich Lifestyle - Lifestyles Around The World 2015
Billionaire Rich Lifestyle - Lifestyles Around The World 2015
Published: 2015/07/25
Channel: How I Became a Billionaire
Bashir Manika offered Imran Khan to the third weeding
Bashir Manika offered Imran Khan to the third weeding
Published: 2018/01/14
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The Putin Files: John Brennan
The Putin Files: John Brennan
Published: 2017/10/26
Channel: FRONTLINE PBS | Official
Donald Trump Buddy Promo Video
Donald Trump Buddy Promo Video
Published: 2017/03/01
Channel: Toons Unlimited
Real story of Pervaiz musharef
Real story of Pervaiz musharef
Published: 2017/11/16
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Migrants and Refugees: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
Migrants and Refugees: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
Published: 2015/09/28
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Published: 2017/11/20
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a-ha - Take On Me (Official Video)
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Published: 2010/01/06
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Published: 2015/03/14
Channel: Inflatable Conan
US Mayors Step In To Fill The Leadership Void On Climate Change - The Ring Of Fire
US Mayors Step In To Fill The Leadership Void On Climate Change - The Ring Of Fire
Published: 2017/07/05
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Published: 2017/11/17
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Published: 2017/07/28
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Purpose?[edit]

Navigation boxes are for articles, not just to list tons of non-notable entries. This template only has a few actual article, so what purpose does it serve? ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:10, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

I removed non-article entries. ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:30, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

And there is no reason for the template if it's this short, all other presidential templates have family included, so this size template should probably be merged with {{Donald Trump}} per site consistency. Randy Kryn 15:24, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

I think it's fine, because the main template will grow and presidency issues wouldn't be very relevant to the articles about individual family members who are notable for other things than happening to be part of the president's family. — JFG talk 14:04, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Generations[edit]

This template includes Frederick Trump and his wife Elizabeth in the "first generation" group (notwithstanding the fact that they weren't the first generation of the family), but Donald Trump is included in the "third generation" and his wives are, quite oddly, included in the "fourth generation" as if they belong to a different generation than their husband and are his children! --Tataral (talk) 17:11, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

@Tataral: You're right, I made it clearer with just two groups and clear descendancy lines. — JFG talk 14:01, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Barron or not Barron[edit]

Now that, per AfD, Barron Trump's page has been merged as a redirect to Family of Donald Trump#Barron Trump, there is a disagreement among editors here whether his name should be included in the navbox. Arguments for: completeness of presidential family, avoiding edit wars. Arguments against: general guidance on criteria for inclusion in navboxes. My take: we should WP:IAR and include him for the sake of stability and being informative to our readers. Note that I am in no way contesting the AfD results, in which I voted strongly against a separate article. Contributors: @Purplebackpack89, Another Believer, Champion, Triggerhippie4, Randy Kryn, Charles Essie, and SNUGGUMS: comments welcome. — JFG talk 15:19, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

  • Not included, since we have no page for him at the present, although that may change because of notability, he should also not be red-linked here. Red links on templates usually imply that Wikipedia seeks and would welcome a competent article on the subject, and a new page on this subject is neither sought nor would stand at the present time. Full disclosure: I think that this template is redundant, because the {{Donald Trump}} template already covers these topics and per the rest of the US presidential templates. Randy Kryn 15:25, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
We're not talking about a red link here: Barron Trump is a blue link to the relevant section of Family of Donald Trump and it's perfectly fine that way. — JFG talk 22:13, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose inclusion the purpose of navboxes is to guide readers through topics that already have articles. There isn't really anything to navigate with for someone who doesn't have a page. It isn't any less informative for readers to exclude subjects without articles. I also agree with Randy's comments on this template being redundant. Snuggums (talk / edits) 16:44, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Obvious included, Include as no link or blue link to family, so readers are aware that Donald has a child with Melania, otherwise the chart is incomplete. It is called Family of Donald Trump which Barron is a member. Valoem talk contrib 15:03, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Support inclusion - This would seem to be rather straightforward and I'm surprised there's even a debate about it. I agree with the rationale presented by JFG and Valoem. -- Scjessey (talk) 19:30, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Include name, when people click on Barron Trump they are (correctly) being redirected to Family of Donald Trump#Barron Trump. It doesn't matter whether we have a "full" page on him or not at present -- the biographical topic of Barron Trump is a future WP:SPINOFF article from the meta-article Family of Donald Trump, just exactly as Melania Trump is such a spinoff aka subsidiary article, already. If there is a question of whether Barron Trump is WP:NOTEWORTHY enough to be in the template (as opposed to Melania Trump's half-brother who is not noteworthy enough for example), then that is worth discussing. But that is a question that can be answered by looking to the sources, and seeing whether Barron is mentioned, along with Tiffany, in addition to the older children Ivanka + Eric + donaldJunior. Some quick googling suggests that he is not mentioned as often as Tiffany, nor his mother -- with Tiffany there are ~1.3m hits,[1] with Barron ~0.2m hits,[2] with Melania ~1.3m hits,[3] with just the older adult children ~2.1m hits.[4] So there is no question that Barron Trump gets 'relatively' little coverage, compared to his mom and step-siblings. But the question that ought to concern us, is whether 0.2m hits is ENOUGH to justify noteworthy-ness, or notability-equivalence: does Barron Trump satisfy WP:GNG -- which is different from whether he actually has a dedicated article. It seems clear to me that he does pass WP:GNG easily,[5][6] and therefore that the lack of a dedicated page is merely because of his age and ancestry. And to be clear, I have no problem with the AfD outcome. My point here is that Barron Trump, as a topic, is not as noteworthy as Melania or as Ivanka, but clearly quote worthy of inclusion in the template about Trump's family. If he *is* in the template, he won't appear as a redlink, because of the redirect -- unless I'm misunderstanding how templates work? Point being, we need not, and we ought not, use questions about whether Barron Trump is blue or not, or questions about whether the content covering Barron Trump is a 'real' fullblown article or not, to make this decision. It should be based on what the sources usually do, when they cover members of the "family of Donald Trump". As for the comments about redundancy, I supported the reverse solution -- keep this template as-is whilst cutting out the redundant portion of the Donald Trump template because it was already covered in THIS template properly -- over at the discussion about said redundancy. 47.222.203.135 (talk) 19:56, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

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